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  Why is Jesus kept side stage ?

  by iknowall558 in

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  john 5 :39 ' 40 "you study the scriptures, because you think that in them you will find eternal life.

  and these very scriptures speak about me!

  yet you are not willing to come to me in order to have life.

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  The Evidence For Evolution (From "why do we say 'I believe evolution'")

  by Spook in

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  i started this as a new thread because the orignal was getting rather long and distant from the op.

  mad dog and i were circulating what, i maintain (or admit) are some fairly specific grounds for starting the discussion.. he was defending a version of (as i understand it): it is unfounded or irrational to accept the theory of evolution as probably true because either the evidence is insufficient compared to what should be observed according to the theory or the evidence observed, while corresponding to the theory, nevertheless is based on unfounded or irrational assumptions.. he is not saying, as i understand it, the following: there exists some evidence which either falsifies the necessary conditions or some other theory which better fits the data.. i was defending and will defend: it is rational to accept the theory of evolution as probably true because the evidence closely corresponds to and is sufficient compared to what should be observed according to the theory and (if we ever get there) it is irrational to reject or postpone judgement of the theory on these grounds.. i'll certainly leave the last half for now, and cut right to the chase in as terse a way possible to allow a likewise pointed rebuttal.. if the theory of evolution were true.... 1. the necessary condition of variation within a population of organisms should be observed.. 2. the necessary condition of a means of heredity should be observed.. 3. the necessary condition of mechanisms os selection should be observed to act on, within and between populations of organisms.. (these conditions, if proven, satisfy that the theory is at least possibly true, but does not constitute grounds to determine rational belief or disbelief in common descent.).

  4. there should be evidence observable in the present and derivable through repeatable analytic means therefrom that life has existed on earth for a long time with respect to the life span of any known organism.. 5. any evidence for the existance of past life forms which is observable in the present should by comparative anatomy, geographical location, computational dating and other methods correspond to the prediction of the descent of species from common ancestors.. 6. the current biogeographical distribution of species alive today should be observed to correspond to the theory of common descent and also fit the evidence in (5).. 7. given genetics, the observable evidence in (6, some of 5, some of 1-3) should be verified to match any corresponding prediction derived from the theory.. (these observations, a posteriori, would constitute strong evidence for the conclusion that probably, evolution is true and may or may not constitute logical grounds for rational belief depending on exactly how an opposing position is developed.

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  Why do we say " I believe in evolution"?

  by Anti-Christ in

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  i hear this and read this a lot, "i don't believe in evolution" or " this person does not believe in evolution".

  when we say this we a perpetuating the myth that evolution is a belief, when in reality it is a fact.

  we should say " this person does not accept evolution as a fact".

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  JW’s & Atheists - Great (Cultic) Minds Think Alike

  by Perry in

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  jws & atheists - great (cultic) minds think alike.

  in the jehovahs witness religion, there is a ceremony known in those circles as the memorial of christs death, or just the memorial for short.

  it is claimed and believed among members that jehovahs witnesses observe the exact same ceremony that is more widely known as the lords supper among christians.

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  IF YOU STILL READ THE BIBLE WHAT VERSION DO YOU READ??

  by Ohio Nana in

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  2. beliefs

  i have my jw bible but also have the good news bible that was used at the lutheran church i went to for about 8 yrs back in the 80's.. one (jw)is hard to read and understand some of the books and the (good news)other is to easy and leaves somethings out, well the jw one does to.. .

  o.n..

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  Places that won't exist in the "Paradise Earth"

  by Zico in

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  machu picchu, peru.

  itsukushima shrine, japan.

  taj mahal, india .

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  Please share a quote that you enjoy...

  by nvrgnbk in

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  nothing contributes so much to tranquilize the mind as a steady purpose--.

  a point on which the soul may fix its intellectual eye.. mary shelley.

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  who really controlls this country

  by jaguarbass in

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  check out this george carlin video.

  http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=935607276.

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  A religion with nothing to Celebrate

  by eyeslice in

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  how sad that the witnesses have nothing to celebrate.

  the more i think about it since i stopped going to the meetings, the more i feel that spirituality and religion are about opportunities to give thanks and to celebrate life with family and friends.

  christenings or name giving ceremonies celebrate the gift of a new life to a family.

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  Witnesses and Marines

  by Grunt in

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  2. friends

  things about the jehovah's witnesses that remind me of the marine corps.

  1. both demand conformity in hair cuts, dress and attitudes, failure to conform will bring disciplinary action and forestall.

  2. both try and isolate you from the world, though only for three months at parris island, a lifetime with the witnesses.. .

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